Job Letter Issues When You’re Beyond the Dissertation
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Thanks Dr. Karen! This is very helpful. As we approach the interview season I wonder if you could also post something about accepting an offer and bargaining. I know you said not to accept an offer immediately but how should you approach, for example, the question of a spousal hire?
Thanks
Ally, sure I can do that. I thought I covered that somewhere already though…. didn’t I?
Oh, sorry. I will look through your posts again – I only remember reading that I should bargain – but maybe you gave some examples too.
I found it – your Aug. 10th post. Thanks, Ally
thanks for checking! does it cover all your questions or do you have more?
I think so. I am learning a lot from your posts (about how to frame myself and my experiences) If offered a job I would then write to say, thank you for your offer….I am happy with the offer but would you be willing to negotiate a spousal hire and a reduced teaching load for the first year.
I think my primary concerns are the possible spousal hire and teaching relief (I am trying to finish up my monograph).
Your tone in this is concerning me. “Would you be willing to” is not the right note to hit in the negotiations, because you’re setting yourself up for a simple “no.” Clearly I need to write another post on this!
First off, Karen, I love your blog. Following up on Ally’s comment, it might be nice to see a post focusing on negotiating a spousal hire (how to word the request, what compromises to expect, how to increase the odds of succeeding in securing a spousal hire, etc.). I’m sure there are many of us out there who have academic spouses, both in our own fields and outside them, but advice on how to tackle the job market as a couple seems hard to come by. You mentioned this topic briefly in the post cited above, but more details on this topic would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
ok, you convinced me.
Thanks very much for this post. Any advice for job-seekers on a non-traditional trajectory is very welcome!
Great advice, Karen! Having slogged through 100+ job applications, I can only concur. There is one thing I would amplify: “This doesn’t mean you have to keep doing the same thing over and over.” Absolutely right. In fact, applicants should at all costs avoid giving the impression that they are doing the same thing over and over. So often applicants proclaim their intent to do the same thing in the next county over…a ginormous turn off, which basically says that the applicant has already run out of ideas and is not likely to acquire new ones any time soon. In every applicant pool there are some who know how to present themselves with the same blend of continuity and change that you describe, and the rest cannot compete with them.
Hi Karen!
In the publications paragraph… it would be great if you could provide an example of how to balance between I published XX and XX and XX out of my dissertation, and I am working on XXX from my new project, while still workign on XX from dissertation. I am finding the balance between the projects tricky. Oh and I second (or third) the spousal hire discussion. Have I mentioned I love your blog. I love it.
I just read this post and it is very helpful! But I agree with Debora’s comment above. Do you mind laying out the order that may work best to describe these different projects. Or is better to keep all that in the research statement?
OK, the way I work with a more advanced scholar is this:
Para one: self intro; I am writing in application to….; etc.
Para two: Current research and pubs
Para three: This research grew out of my eearlier work on xxxx. that research and pubs.
Para four (if nec). Dissertation research, as starting point to above, and pubs.
Para five: Next research
Para six and on: teaching, etc.